Talk:Holidays and festivals

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Format of Page

What do folks think about the formatting of this page? This is the best I could come up with but I am not completely happy with it. I also think it's a bit of a long article, but I also think it's important to have all the holidays together on one page. --brandingopportunity 15:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the page isn't very aesthetically pleasing, but there is benefit to including everything in a single article. The only alternative I can think of would be to make a page for each month as a primary article (as already red-linked to from Absalom Reckoning) in which we would include a general description of the weather during the month, historical events which may have occurred then (like the founding of Absalom or Aroden's death), how it gets its name and a header for holidays. This header could then be deep-linked from this page in the form of Full article: Desnus or See also: Lamashan. This would cut down on the length of this page in particular but would prevent someone from seeing all the holidays in the whole year on one page.
Another option would be to use less horizontal lines and headers and create some sort of table with multiple columns like we did to list authors for the Campaign Setting. At this point, getting the information up here should be the priority with organization as a secondary concern. In cases where info can be included and also formatted well then it should be done, but in the case of something like this, cleanup of this sort of "trivia" is a project in and of itself. -- yoda8myhead 22:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Nice update to format by Oznogon. 2 points that might help are artwork and columns. I could not immediately find anything but we must have a celebratory image somewhere? Most of the text runs down the left hand side so if we could make the page into two columns that might help. A table could do this but that is immediately a lot of coding and a turn off for other editors potentially (a la Art index which is a royal pain to edit). Is there a way of just forcing a page to show all material over 2 columns in the same way we can add a |2 to the {{refs}} template? --Fleanetha (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Also - can we put the code for celebrating a particular Golarion holiday on the front page please? --Fleanetha (talk) 11:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Switched from a table to the newer {{Div col}} template, which implements browser columns. This means the columns are now flexible enough to collapse into a single column on smaller viewports, such as mobile devices and narrow browser windows. This also seems to have fixed some leaky MediaWiki rendering that caused the references to look poor and categories to go missing on the default Refreshed skin. -Oznogon (talk) 19:30, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

More info on individual holidays

Just an FYI for anyone working on this page. I have done a thorough search of all Pathfinder material currently available I have as a PDF (and I think I have it all). I have created full articles on the holidays which are covered here. If there is no link for a particular holiday, it means that there is no current information on it. --brandingopportunity 00:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Southern Hemisphere

Longwalk is celebrated in Nurvatchta, in Southern Garund. Should the winter solstice the local winter, or is it the wintertime from the perspective of the Inner Sea? If one assumes a Pathfinder member has written about it, then the local winter solstice would make sense. Similarly, the first rain of summer could be in December of June. I would always assume it to be the local summer, which will be December. --Shadowfoot (talk) 08:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, specified the northern hemisphere assumption on the page and moved Longwalk. -Oznogon (talk) 18:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Seven Veils

There are different dates listed for Seven Veils. The newest reference refers to 7 Neth1 but there is multiple sources for 23 Neth23 Both references indicate that most part/realms celebrate it on the indicated day, so it's not just a regional difference. -Shadowfoot (talk) 08:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

FWIW, I don't think there's an inherent conflict. Inner Sea Faiths leaves the door open for multiple dates of celebration; it's on 7 Neth only "in most parts of the Inner Sea region", which leaves a lot of Golarion and some of the ISR to celebrate it on 23 Neth. Inner Sea World Guide has the higher tier. If duplicate entries are too much clutter, maybe put most of the information under 23 Neth, note the alternate date, and only repeat the name of the holiday on 7 Neth with a note to see 23 Neth. (Edit: I went ahead and did that.)
As in most cases, Campaign Setting p. 239 also has the same 23 Neth date as ISWG.
Man, it had to be Sivanah, though! -Oznogon (talk) 04:37, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
She is the goddess of obfuscation, after all! --Brandingopportunity (talk) 04:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
7 for seven veils; 23 is not half of 56 - Aucturn Enigma??? Neth is 11th month - Aucturn Enigma again. I am sure there is no need to worry. --Fleanetha (talk) 11:17, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
But alas a good story spoilt by the maths. --Fleanetha (talk) 11:19, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. Robert Brookes, et al. Sivanah” in Inner Sea Faiths, 85–86. Paizo Inc., 2016
  2. James Jacobs, et al. The Inner Sea World Guide, 248–249. Paizo Inc., 2011
  3. Mike Brock and James Jacobs. (November 21, 2011). Seven Veils Celebration, Paizo Blog.