Talk:King of Biting Ants/Conflicts

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Defeat

Although some older sources like Campaign Setting credit the Ten Magic Warriors with defeating the King of Biting Ants, Kindled Magic reveals that he was defeated by Jatembe before the Ten Magic Warriors was formed. - HTD (talk) 15:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Specific conflicts:
Ten Magic Warriors mentioned:
  • Lost Omens World Guide pg. 91: "Stories of the magic warriors’ exploits abound, such as how they defeated the King of Biting Ants to liberate the Doorway to the Red Star ..."
  • Legends pg. 63: "... the Old-Mage’s greatest deeds: ... The battle at the Doorway to the Red Star against the King of Biting Ants, whose eyes crawled across every leaf and tasted every person and animal, and the triad of Swarming Cathedrals he controlled. There the Eleven Heroes fought alongside the first Iobane, whose psychic power helped scatter the insectile sorcerer’s body and mind."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 7: "The Iobane are a sect of Zenj magi who can trace their lineage back to the Ten Magic Warriors who, alongside Jatembe, fought against the King of Biting Ants and other threats to Golarion. ... (The King of Biting Ants') evil magics threatened the peace and freedom of the people of the Mwangi Expanse until Jatembe and the Ten Magic Warriors defeated him at his stronghold, the Doorway to the Red Star, thousands of years ago."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 75: "Wyrm Drinker lay forgotten for many years until one of Jatembe’s Ten Magic Warriors stumbled across it and ultimately used its power in their final confrontation against the King of Biting Ants."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 76: "Old-Mage Jatembe sought out the warrior (Kaladir), now a husband with children and grandchildren of his own, and enlisted him in a crusade against a great evil—the King of Biting Ants. ... Though once a weapon wielded against the forces of the King of Biting Ants, Spellcutter didn’t remain among the Iobane ..."
  • The Mwangi Expanse pg. 6–7: Artwork depicts the Ten Magic Warriors fighting the King of Biting Ants.
Only Jatembe mentioned:
  • Kindled Magic pg. 3: "Jatembe traveled to the Doorway and fought the King of Biting Ants, scattering his form and driving him through the Doorway along with his ageless acolytes."
  • Kindled Magic pg. 5: "-3505 AR: ... Old-Mage Jatembe vanquishes (the King of Biting Ants) and banishes him to Akiton. -3504 AR: Old-Mage Jatembe chooses his Ten Magic Warriors to restore the light of learning to Garund."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 19: "This Vesicant Egg, is associated with the King of Biting Ants, a potent artifact left behind after his defeat at the hands of Jatembe."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 22: "Mpondo explains to the heroes that, millennia ago, Jatembe battled the King of Biting Ants at the Doorway to the Red Star before driving the vile sorcerer through and presumably destroying him."
  • Doorway to the Red Star pg. 41: "He first came to our attention with his enemy known as the King of Biting Ants, when their battle spilled through to this world from yours."
It's unclear that the timeline mention in Kindred Magic alone resolves the conflict, and there are more recent statements of the same tier (and from later in the same AP) that suggest the magic warriors were present for the battle against the King of Biting Ants on Golarion.
Several statements that mention only Jatembe defeating the King of Biting Ants, but also don't exclude the possibility that magic warriors joined the battle prior to Jatembe and the King passing through the Doorway to the Red Star and finishing it alone. -Oznogon (talk) 00:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)