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The Grand Duchy of Alkenstar seems like it is now defined as a city within a country called the Mana Wastes in the ISWG along with new heraldry. So should we demote Alkenstar to the status of a city and promote Mana Wastes to its country? Alkenstar, as a Grand Duchy, still feels like a country in its own right to me however.--Fleanetha 13:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Whenever a Paizo employee is on the board they still call it 'the country of Alkenstar' so I think its still a country. -- Cpt kirstov 15:27, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
The Mana Wastes were given their own section for the same reason the Steaming Sea and the Darklands were. They needed more than just a passing mention, and the individual city-states or nations within were similar enough the be lumped together. Alkenstar is still a nation (contained within the region called the Mana Wastes) just as Hermea is a nation in the Steaming Sea.—Yoda8myhead 01:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Alkenstar is really a city-state consisting of three of four settlements, just like Absalom. I'd say keep it the way it is.--Filby 01:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


This page lists the "Taldan bombard Worldbreaker" as being built by engineers and metallurgists of Alkenstar in the year 2009 AR, this predates the founding of Alkenstar by Ancil Alkenstar by 2500+ years, as mentioned on this page and listed by dates on Ancil Alkenstar's page.

The Talk page for Gunworks has a similar discussion, where the Inner Sea World Guide moved up the timeline of firearms and the construction of Gunworks from 1903 (according to Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting) to the newer dates presented in the ISWG. -Woz60 (talk) 01:48, 23 July 2021 (UTC)